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		<title>By: Siege</title>
		<link>http://www.ijtema.net/2007/06/10/why-pick-on-israel/comment-page-1/#comment-687</link>
		<dc:creator>Siege</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Jul 2007 08:52:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You should all have a look at the Hadassah Hospital in Jerusalem where not only Arabs from Israel as well as Palestinians, people from all of the Arab world are treated on a daily basis. Is that what you would call hatred? Have you ever been in Malcha&#039;s shopping mall in Jerusalem, where Arabs from all over the Arab world are shopping in peace? Did you ever notice how many arab students are studying at the Technion in Haifa, at the Hebrew University in Jerusalem???How about Palestinians dealing with their own corrupt leadership and internal hatred, building playgrounds for their children in stead of buying more arms. Israel left Gaza a long time ago, in stead of killing each other, Palestinians could have started to build, to grow fruits and vegatables to feed their people. Let them be constructive in stead of blaming Israel for everything that doesn&#039;t work with them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You should all have a look at the Hadassah Hospital in Jerusalem where not only Arabs from Israel as well as Palestinians, people from all of the Arab world are treated on a daily basis. Is that what you would call hatred? Have you ever been in Malcha&#8217;s shopping mall in Jerusalem, where Arabs from all over the Arab world are shopping in peace? Did you ever notice how many arab students are studying at the Technion in Haifa, at the Hebrew University in Jerusalem???How about Palestinians dealing with their own corrupt leadership and internal hatred, building playgrounds for their children in stead of buying more arms. Israel left Gaza a long time ago, in stead of killing each other, Palestinians could have started to build, to grow fruits and vegatables to feed their people. Let them be constructive in stead of blaming Israel for everything that doesn&#8217;t work with them.</p>
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		<title>By: FurGaia</title>
		<link>http://www.ijtema.net/2007/06/10/why-pick-on-israel/comment-page-1/#comment-581</link>
		<dc:creator>FurGaia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Jun 2007 17:02:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No, not the same. Methinks The Fanonite is in Scotland. He has &lt;a href=&quot;http://fanonite.org/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;a great site&lt;/a&gt;. I&#039;m in Canada.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No, not the same. Methinks The Fanonite is in Scotland. He has <a href="http://fanonite.org/" rel="nofollow">a great site</a>. I&#8217;m in Canada.</p>
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		<title>By: manas</title>
		<link>http://www.ijtema.net/2007/06/10/why-pick-on-israel/comment-page-1/#comment-580</link>
		<dc:creator>manas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Jun 2007 16:51:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>FurGaia

Or should I call you Fanonite? Thank you too for writing stuff worth linking to.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>FurGaia</p>
<p>Or should I call you Fanonite? Thank you too for writing stuff worth linking to.</p>
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		<title>By: manas</title>
		<link>http://www.ijtema.net/2007/06/10/why-pick-on-israel/comment-page-1/#comment-579</link>
		<dc:creator>manas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Jun 2007 08:22:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A thief can steal your watch from you.  Or maybe all your money.

A tyrant steals your happiness, your pride, and your feeling of safety from you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A thief can steal your watch from you.  Or maybe all your money.</p>
<p>A tyrant steals your happiness, your pride, and your feeling of safety from you.</p>
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		<title>By: manas</title>
		<link>http://www.ijtema.net/2007/06/10/why-pick-on-israel/comment-page-1/#comment-577</link>
		<dc:creator>manas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Jun 2007 08:12:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>sister gess

First, the author is not arguing against a boycott on US.

Even then, second, there is a big difference between what the US is doing and what Israel is doing. What US is doing is out of political interest. It does what it does out of greed. It does not discriminate much against the minorities- it&#039;s  own people. It tries not to. (there are some, but very little, compared most other countries.) US knows what it is doing in Iraq and elsewhere is wrong. It tries to hide from errors, and when the errors are made clear, they sink from it.

Israel, on the other hand, is driven by an IDEOLOGY of hatred.  The boast it. They discriminate against the Muslim population- BY LAW and on their own land. They are not ashamed of the death and horror and destruction that they bring. When it is made clear, they say- it was necessary(dryly).

The difference is like the difference between a thief and a tyrant. 

The difference is huge.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>sister gess</p>
<p>First, the author is not arguing against a boycott on US.</p>
<p>Even then, second, there is a big difference between what the US is doing and what Israel is doing. What US is doing is out of political interest. It does what it does out of greed. It does not discriminate much against the minorities- it&#8217;s  own people. It tries not to. (there are some, but very little, compared most other countries.) US knows what it is doing in Iraq and elsewhere is wrong. It tries to hide from errors, and when the errors are made clear, they sink from it.</p>
<p>Israel, on the other hand, is driven by an IDEOLOGY of hatred.  The boast it. They discriminate against the Muslim population- BY LAW and on their own land. They are not ashamed of the death and horror and destruction that they bring. When it is made clear, they say- it was necessary(dryly).</p>
<p>The difference is like the difference between a thief and a tyrant. </p>
<p>The difference is huge.</p>
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		<title>By: FurGaia</title>
		<link>http://www.ijtema.net/2007/06/10/why-pick-on-israel/comment-page-1/#comment-576</link>
		<dc:creator>FurGaia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Jun 2007 00:48:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Gess, I posted a link before but since I&#039;m not sure that it will appear, here is a quote from that link:

&quot;As bad as the actions of other oppressive states are (including our own) Israel is unique in that it is a colonial settler state that sided with Imperialism as the strategy for it&#039;s creation which was built not only on the ethnic cleansing of an entire people, but as a Zionist state it had it&#039;s structures of discrimination built into it&#039;s very core from the start, it cannot exist without them, nor can the logic of Zionism mean anything else than further attempts to grab all the land in the area as should be obvious from the settlers in the Occupied Territories…with grim irony the victims of one of the worst events in history, the holocaust (which we should not forget wasn&#039;t about merely anti-semitism, the first camp was built for communists, socialists and trade unionists), have in turn become the oppressors of another people for half a century and created the most dangerous place on earth for Jews to live.

The only solution to this problem would be one secular state for everyone in that area, but thats some way off, first we have to do something to bring the pressure to bear on the Israeli state for it&#039;s actions…this is what the boycott is for, it is being asked for by Palestinian colleagues who have no academic freedom, and it seems that it is having quite an effect already, if the strained and rather desperate attempts by various Zionists to paint us all as anti-semites is anything to go by.&quot; - 

http://members5.boardhost.com/medialens/msg/1181601678.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gess, I posted a link before but since I&#8217;m not sure that it will appear, here is a quote from that link:</p>
<p>&#8220;As bad as the actions of other oppressive states are (including our own) Israel is unique in that it is a colonial settler state that sided with Imperialism as the strategy for it&#8217;s creation which was built not only on the ethnic cleansing of an entire people, but as a Zionist state it had it&#8217;s structures of discrimination built into it&#8217;s very core from the start, it cannot exist without them, nor can the logic of Zionism mean anything else than further attempts to grab all the land in the area as should be obvious from the settlers in the Occupied Territories…with grim irony the victims of one of the worst events in history, the holocaust (which we should not forget wasn&#8217;t about merely anti-semitism, the first camp was built for communists, socialists and trade unionists), have in turn become the oppressors of another people for half a century and created the most dangerous place on earth for Jews to live.</p>
<p>The only solution to this problem would be one secular state for everyone in that area, but thats some way off, first we have to do something to bring the pressure to bear on the Israeli state for it&#8217;s actions…this is what the boycott is for, it is being asked for by Palestinian colleagues who have no academic freedom, and it seems that it is having quite an effect already, if the strained and rather desperate attempts by various Zionists to paint us all as anti-semites is anything to go by.&#8221; &#8211; </p>
<p><a href="http://members5.boardhost.com/medialens/msg/1181601678.html" rel="nofollow">http://members5.boardhost.com/medialens/msg/1181601678.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: FurGaia</title>
		<link>http://www.ijtema.net/2007/06/10/why-pick-on-israel/comment-page-1/#comment-575</link>
		<dc:creator>FurGaia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Jun 2007 00:45:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Follow the <a href="http://members5.boardhost.com/medialens/msg/1181563539.html" rel="nofollow">thread</a>.</p>
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		<title>By: gess</title>
		<link>http://www.ijtema.net/2007/06/10/why-pick-on-israel/comment-page-1/#comment-574</link>
		<dc:creator>gess</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Jun 2007 20:26:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>iMuslim,

But the hypocrisy is an issue here. Why picking only Israel?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>iMuslim,</p>
<p>But the hypocrisy is an issue here. Why picking only Israel?</p>
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		<title>By: FurGaia</title>
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		<dc:creator>FurGaia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Jun 2007 20:16:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for the link, Manas.

Regarding all those questions that people have about the relevance of boycott, perhaps the question should be addressed to Israel itself. After all, boycott was a prominent tool used against Nazi Germany and &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.jewishsf.com/content/2-0-/module/displaystory/story_id/18285/format/print/edition_id/365/displaystory.print&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;beyond&lt;/a&gt;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the link, Manas.</p>
<p>Regarding all those questions that people have about the relevance of boycott, perhaps the question should be addressed to Israel itself. After all, boycott was a prominent tool used against Nazi Germany and <a href="http://www.jewishsf.com/content/2-0-/module/displaystory/story_id/18285/format/print/edition_id/365/displaystory.print" rel="nofollow">beyond</a>.</p>
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		<title>By: iMuslim</title>
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		<dc:creator>iMuslim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Jun 2007 18:22:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m always a little confused about boycotts... on the one hand i understand the message that they send out, and their potential benefit, on the other, i remember what Sh. Hamza Yusuf said about boycotts being a form of collective punishment. That is, you are punishing a large group of people, of which only a minority might be the guilty party, so making the act unjust. I suppose it depends on the circumstances, whether the silent majority were supportive of the guilty minority or not, even if it just be by their silence...?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m always a little confused about boycotts&#8230; on the one hand i understand the message that they send out, and their potential benefit, on the other, i remember what Sh. Hamza Yusuf said about boycotts being a form of collective punishment. That is, you are punishing a large group of people, of which only a minority might be the guilty party, so making the act unjust. I suppose it depends on the circumstances, whether the silent majority were supportive of the guilty minority or not, even if it just be by their silence&#8230;?</p>
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