It’s not a question of not uniting but its a question of how concerned they are. If Muslims are to get out of the mess they are in, then these groups have to out aside the differences. Their ego is helping no one.
salam… I am disappointed that you decided to ignore some of the positive energy on issues of unity flowing from Abu Easa on this subject, and that you instead felt that the sectarian braelwi’sh attitudes were more important to highlight, esp. when they represent a minority view.
wallahualam.
It could be that Manas had not come across the entry you mentioned (i haven’t), so please paste the link here, so our other readers can decide for themselves. We have to consider all the sides, positive and negative. That’s what discourse and debate are all about.
Btw, i’ve been very lazy, and haven’t read this entry, nor the first post it comments on, so i won’t go deeper into the subject. Will leave that to the experts, inshallah.
salam… I am sorry if I came across as a little grumpy…
If you read the comments on the post you linked and what he links within the post, including an unintended misquotation from me… and read what this is in reaction to… and read what Yahya Birt says within it… and more importantly read the post carefully, it would be easy to see that this is not a “lets unite” post, rather it is “here are reasons not to unite” post. Not that people don’t have the prerogative to write anything they want, but usually Ijtema is intersted in promoting positive energy.
In any case, here are some posts that actually do that or at least have a less sectarian tilt to them:
salam
of course you did Umm Layth… but unfortunately your track record of comments on any posts promoting unity does not give you the most credibility. And I say with the utmost of respect… you oppose most of those efforts and I am sure you have good, sincere reasons to do so…
I must admit that I did not verify all the facts and links, but as we are not really promoting (or agreeing with) all the ideas we link to (not even you ), it really shouldn’t a big issue. We are merely ‘passing the words’.
Right now I am terribly busy, therefore could not check the links you gave, nor could I check the previous entry. I am also sorry for being so late to reply.
I shall try to clear it up end of next week InshaAllah.
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It’s not a question of not uniting but its a question of how concerned they are. If Muslims are to get out of the mess they are in, then these groups have to out aside the differences. Their ego is helping no one.
^ You are right LS, and it’s very boooooorrrring!
salam… I am disappointed that you decided to ignore some of the positive energy on issues of unity flowing from Abu Easa on this subject, and that you instead felt that the sectarian braelwi’sh attitudes were more important to highlight, esp. when they represent a minority view.
wallahualam.
^ Ramadan Karim
Wa ‘alaykum salam Amad,
Jazakallah for your comment.
It could be that Manas had not come across the entry you mentioned (i haven’t), so please paste the link here, so our other readers can decide for themselves. We have to consider all the sides, positive and negative. That’s what discourse and debate are all about.
Btw, i’ve been very lazy, and haven’t read this entry, nor the first post it comments on, so i won’t go deeper into the subject. Will leave that to the experts, inshallah.
Wa’salam
Amad,
I missed that post, but I guess all voices that is meaningful are important. This entry looked quite positive in it’s overall approach to me.
I’ll check the older entry you mentioned when I get the time, InshaAllah.
salam… I am sorry if I came across as a little grumpy…
If you read the comments on the post you linked and what he links within the post, including an unintended misquotation from me… and read what this is in reaction to… and read what Yahya Birt says within it… and more importantly read the post carefully, it would be easy to see that this is not a “lets unite” post, rather it is “here are reasons not to unite” post. Not that people don’t have the prerogative to write anything they want, but usually Ijtema is intersted in promoting positive energy.
In any case, here are some posts that actually do that or at least have a less sectarian tilt to them:
http://alternativeentertainment.wordpress.com/2007/08/27/unity-based-on-renewal-and-guidance/
http://shaukani.wordpress.com/2007/08/25/outlines-response-to-ustadh-yahya-birtfor-a-working-strategy-aiming-at-the-cultuvation-of-unity/
http://shaukani.wordpress.com/2007/08/24/reflection-on-akhi-ustadh-yahya-birts-analysis-ustadh-birts-response-to-masud-khan-on-a-deenport-thread/
http://www.yahyabirt.com/?p=92
I enjoyed brother Yursil’s post. I think there is a better awareness of the problem in his entry.
salam
of course you did Umm Layth… but unfortunately your track record of comments on any posts promoting unity does not give you the most credibility. And I say with the utmost of respect… you oppose most of those efforts and I am sure you have good, sincere reasons to do so…
Amad
I must admit that I did not verify all the facts and links, but as we are not really promoting (or agreeing with) all the ideas we link to (not even you
), it really shouldn’t a big issue. We are merely ‘passing the words’.
Right now I am terribly busy, therefore could not check the links you gave, nor could I check the previous entry. I am also sorry for being so late to reply.
I shall try to clear it up end of next week InshaAllah.
Ramadan Mubarak, brother.
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