Comments on: Sufi – Salafi Unity? http://www.ijtema.net/2007/09/09/sufi-salafi-unity/ A Congregation of Muslim Bloggers Fri, 12 Mar 2010 03:17:05 -0700 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.4 hourly 1 By: Manas Shaikh http://www.ijtema.net/2007/09/09/sufi-salafi-unity/comment-page-1/#comment-1290 Manas Shaikh Thu, 13 Sep 2007 17:13:20 +0000 http://www.ijtema.net/2007/09/09/sufi-salafi-unity/#comment-1290 Amad I must admit that I did not verify all the facts and links, but as we are not really promoting (or agreeing with) all the ideas we link to (not even you :) ), it really shouldn't a big issue. We are merely 'passing the words'. Right now I am terribly busy, therefore could not check the links you gave, nor could I check the previous entry. I am also sorry for being so late to reply. I shall try to clear it up end of next week InshaAllah. Ramadan Mubarak, brother. Amad

I must admit that I did not verify all the facts and links, but as we are not really promoting (or agreeing with) all the ideas we link to (not even you :) ), it really shouldn’t a big issue. We are merely ‘passing the words’.

Right now I am terribly busy, therefore could not check the links you gave, nor could I check the previous entry. I am also sorry for being so late to reply.

I shall try to clear it up end of next week InshaAllah.

Ramadan Mubarak, brother.

]]> By: amad http://www.ijtema.net/2007/09/09/sufi-salafi-unity/comment-page-1/#comment-1287 amad Wed, 12 Sep 2007 22:34:17 +0000 http://www.ijtema.net/2007/09/09/sufi-salafi-unity/#comment-1287 salam of course you did Umm Layth... but unfortunately your track record of comments on any posts promoting unity does not give you the most credibility. And I say with the utmost of respect... you oppose most of those efforts and I am sure you have good, sincere reasons to do so... salam
of course you did Umm Layth… but unfortunately your track record of comments on any posts promoting unity does not give you the most credibility. And I say with the utmost of respect… you oppose most of those efforts and I am sure you have good, sincere reasons to do so…

]]> By: Umm Layth http://www.ijtema.net/2007/09/09/sufi-salafi-unity/comment-page-1/#comment-1257 Umm Layth Tue, 11 Sep 2007 04:16:47 +0000 http://www.ijtema.net/2007/09/09/sufi-salafi-unity/#comment-1257 I enjoyed brother Yursil's post. I think there is a better awareness of the problem in his entry. I enjoyed brother Yursil’s post. I think there is a better awareness of the problem in his entry.

]]> By: amad http://www.ijtema.net/2007/09/09/sufi-salafi-unity/comment-page-1/#comment-1254 amad Mon, 10 Sep 2007 23:35:46 +0000 http://www.ijtema.net/2007/09/09/sufi-salafi-unity/#comment-1254 salam... I am sorry if I came across as a little grumpy... If you read the comments on the post you linked and what he links within the post, including an unintended misquotation from me... and read what this is in reaction to... and read what Yahya Birt says within it... and more importantly read the post carefully, it would be easy to see that this is not a "lets unite" post, rather it is "here are reasons not to unite" post. Not that people don't have the prerogative to write anything they want, but usually Ijtema is intersted in promoting positive energy. In any case, here are some posts that actually do that or at least have a less sectarian tilt to them: http://alternativeentertainment.wordpress.com/2007/08/27/unity-based-on-renewal-and-guidance/ http://shaukani.wordpress.com/2007/08/25/outlines-response-to-ustadh-yahya-birtfor-a-working-strategy-aiming-at-the-cultuvation-of-unity/ http://shaukani.wordpress.com/2007/08/24/reflection-on-akhi-ustadh-yahya-birts-analysis-ustadh-birts-response-to-masud-khan-on-a-deenport-thread/ http://www.yahyabirt.com/?p=92 salam… I am sorry if I came across as a little grumpy…

If you read the comments on the post you linked and what he links within the post, including an unintended misquotation from me… and read what this is in reaction to… and read what Yahya Birt says within it… and more importantly read the post carefully, it would be easy to see that this is not a “lets unite” post, rather it is “here are reasons not to unite” post. Not that people don’t have the prerogative to write anything they want, but usually Ijtema is intersted in promoting positive energy.

In any case, here are some posts that actually do that or at least have a less sectarian tilt to them:

http://alternativeentertainment.wordpress.com/2007/08/27/unity-based-on-renewal-and-guidance/
http://shaukani.wordpress.com/2007/08/25/outlines-response-to-ustadh-yahya-birtfor-a-working-strategy-aiming-at-the-cultuvation-of-unity/
http://shaukani.wordpress.com/2007/08/24/reflection-on-akhi-ustadh-yahya-birts-analysis-ustadh-birts-response-to-masud-khan-on-a-deenport-thread/
http://www.yahyabirt.com/?p=92

]]> By: Manas Shaikh http://www.ijtema.net/2007/09/09/sufi-salafi-unity/comment-page-1/#comment-1251 Manas Shaikh Mon, 10 Sep 2007 16:33:06 +0000 http://www.ijtema.net/2007/09/09/sufi-salafi-unity/#comment-1251 Amad, I missed that post, but I guess all voices that is meaningful are important. This entry looked quite positive in it's overall approach to me. I'll check the older entry you mentioned when I get the time, InshaAllah. Amad,

I missed that post, but I guess all voices that is meaningful are important. This entry looked quite positive in it’s overall approach to me.

I’ll check the older entry you mentioned when I get the time, InshaAllah.

]]> By: iMuslim http://www.ijtema.net/2007/09/09/sufi-salafi-unity/comment-page-1/#comment-1250 iMuslim Mon, 10 Sep 2007 16:04:47 +0000 http://www.ijtema.net/2007/09/09/sufi-salafi-unity/#comment-1250 <p>Wa 'alaykum salam Amad,</p> Jazakallah for your comment. <p>It could be that Manas had not come across the entry you mentioned (i haven't), so please paste the link here, so our other readers can decide for themselves. We have to consider all the sides, positive and negative. That's what discourse and debate are all about. :)</p> <p>Btw, i've been very lazy, and haven't read this entry, nor the first post it comments on, so i won't go deeper into the subject. Will leave that to the experts, inshallah. :)</p> <p>Wa'salam</p> Wa ‘alaykum salam Amad,

Jazakallah for your comment.

It could be that Manas had not come across the entry you mentioned (i haven’t), so please paste the link here, so our other readers can decide for themselves. We have to consider all the sides, positive and negative. That’s what discourse and debate are all about. :)

Btw, i’ve been very lazy, and haven’t read this entry, nor the first post it comments on, so i won’t go deeper into the subject. Will leave that to the experts, inshallah. :)

Wa’salam

]]> By: gess http://www.ijtema.net/2007/09/09/sufi-salafi-unity/comment-page-1/#comment-1249 gess Mon, 10 Sep 2007 15:40:48 +0000 http://www.ijtema.net/2007/09/09/sufi-salafi-unity/#comment-1249 ^ Ramadan Karim :) ^ Ramadan Karim :)

]]> By: Amad http://www.ijtema.net/2007/09/09/sufi-salafi-unity/comment-page-1/#comment-1248 Amad Mon, 10 Sep 2007 11:55:19 +0000 http://www.ijtema.net/2007/09/09/sufi-salafi-unity/#comment-1248 salam... I am disappointed that you decided to ignore some of the positive energy on issues of unity flowing from Abu Easa on this subject, and that you instead felt that the sectarian braelwi'sh attitudes were more important to highlight, esp. when they represent a minority view. wallahualam. salam… I am disappointed that you decided to ignore some of the positive energy on issues of unity flowing from Abu Easa on this subject, and that you instead felt that the sectarian braelwi’sh attitudes were more important to highlight, esp. when they represent a minority view.
wallahualam.

]]> By: gess http://www.ijtema.net/2007/09/09/sufi-salafi-unity/comment-page-1/#comment-1232 gess Sun, 09 Sep 2007 21:29:45 +0000 http://www.ijtema.net/2007/09/09/sufi-salafi-unity/#comment-1232 ^ You are right LS, and it's very boooooorrrring! :roll: :evil: :mad: ^ You are right LS, and it’s very boooooorrrring! :roll: :evil: :mad:

]]> By: Lazy Servant http://www.ijtema.net/2007/09/09/sufi-salafi-unity/comment-page-1/#comment-1230 Lazy Servant Sun, 09 Sep 2007 18:36:00 +0000 http://www.ijtema.net/2007/09/09/sufi-salafi-unity/#comment-1230 It's not a question of not uniting but its a question of how concerned they are. If Muslims are to get out of the mess they are in, then these groups have to out aside the differences. Their ego is helping no one. It’s not a question of not uniting but its a question of how concerned they are. If Muslims are to get out of the mess they are in, then these groups have to out aside the differences. Their ego is helping no one.

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