Indonesia May Ban Ahmadiyya Muslim Sect
Islamosphere is abuzz with discussion about a possible ban on Ahmadiyyas and related
Robert Salaam quotes Mike Ghouse-
The real issue is not about who is a Muslim, but it is about the role of a majority in a diverse society. [...] The real question that we need to address is should we let a majority determine what one believes, wears or eats? Can the Majority in the United States do that? Can the majority in Indonesia do that? Should that work in India?
On a different note, indscribe twines Ahmadiyyas and Sunnis, Iraq and Pakistan-
Country, region, religion, sect, followers of different spiritual leaders, they are all baying for each other’s blood. Is it not Iraqi blood? It is in this context that I have quoted the couplets here.
The family of Obaidullah Aleem, a poet born in India, had migrated to Pakistan long back. It was the sectarian clashes in Pakistan that may have prompted him to write these lines.Ironically, Aleem belonged to the Ahmadiyya sect, that believes in Mirza Ghulam Ahmad Qadiyani as prophet, though their split branch, Lahoris, believe him as a mujaddid or reviver, but both sects were declared un-Islamic in Pakistan.
I admit that I was biased against the sect. But the kind of persecution they have braved, is also unparalleled.
[Image of an Ahmadiyya Mosque: Satyadasa]
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Very interesting. Wonder how that would pan our in India or Pakistan. Probably not so well…
India already has a large population of Ahmadiyyas. But their interaction with more mainstream Muslims is minimal. So chances of friction are also less.
Pakistan is a different case. I believe they have a law that classifies Ahmadiyyas as non-Muslims.
As-Salaamu ‘alaikum,
Indonesia is right to ban this deceitful sect from calling itself Islam and from operating in their country which is mostly a bastion of Sunni Islam. It is not Muslims who made them non-Muslims by a declaration of their kufr; it is their kufr which made them kafirs, because it is a basic tenet of Islam that Muhammad, sall’ Allahu ‘alaihi wa sallam, is the last Prophet - any minimally educated Muslim knows this. We know how the salaf dealt with false prophets and if the Qadianis had not had the protection of the British Empire they would have had the same treatment as Musaylima and his evil followers. Many people are easily led and it is right not to allow them to deceive people, as they are apt to do (as I have personally witnessed on many occasions in south London where they have three of their “mosques” or temples as we call them). Down with Qadianism!
As-Salaamu ‘alaikum,
Sorry, that last post was from me (3:48 am, 26th April).
Wa’Alaikum as Salaam
I agree with you about their religion- that they are wrong in claiming that our beloved Prophet Muhammad (Sallahu Alayahi wa Sallam) was not the last Prophet.
However, the banning thing is a slippery slope. Tomorrow Arabs might declare Shi’a heretical. Iran will declare Sunnis as the same!
From the perspective of the Christians we are heretics. Christians are heretics from Jew’s perspective.
This knows no end.
The solution to falsehood is Truth. Not a ban, insha’Allah.
It is the rest of the so called Muslim world that are non Muslims. Any Muslim who rejects the Masih & Madhi of the time is a non Muslim. It is unfortunate, but in this Muslim world you have Muslims killing Muslims i.e. Iraq, Somalia, Iran, Pakistan, Afghanistan. The Promised Messiah is here, accept him and be saved. The ONLY TRUE ISLAM IS AHMADIYYAT. Everything and everybody else outside the fold of Ahmadiyyat will be lost. To be Ahmadi is to be a true Muslim. People who do not understand that are the ones who will fry in Hell. Again Ahamdis are the only true Muslims. May the whole world be Ahmadi and a better place to live. The whole world will be Ahmadi it is only a matter of time. Inshallah. Ahmadiyyat Zindabad!!!!!!
Dear Fareed
I respectfully disagree with you.
For the record brothers and sisters,
“Fareed Ahmed” and the poster “As Salaam..” both posted the same exact messages on my blog. They are obviously deceitful listeners of the whispers of Iblis, who are trying to stir the pot. It may be the same person, notice how they directly contradict one another?
we now live in global village ,any incident,outbreak and even a minor accident is immediately world over in seconds. adress of a president or sermon by a scholor is on the air. the communication advancement thus suggests that the holy message of ALLAH,THE GOD ALMIGHTY,through prophet MUHAMMAD [PBOH]could be conavayed world over immediately as such he is the last of the prophet and there was no need of any prophet there after
Islam preaches PEACE & NOT buring the mosques in fire. Insha Allah very soon the world will come to realize that Promissed Messiah is HE WHOSE ADVENT WAS PROMISSISED BY THE HOLY PROPHET MUHAMMAD (PBUH) & THERE WILL BE NO WAY OUT BUT TO ACCEPT HAZRAT MIRZA GULAM AHMAD (AS) OF QUADIAN AS THE TRUE MASIH AND MAHDI OF ALLAH. Blessed is he who follows the guidance of Allah & His messangers, not the provocation of so called Mullahs, who have been foretol as the most inferior creartute on earth by the Holy Prophet Muhammad (PBUH). It may be the last chance for the Mullahs to offer Towba and accept allegiance in the hand of HAZRAT MIRZA MASROOR AHMAD (atba), the present Caliph and SUPREME HEAD of the worldwide Ahmdiyya Community. Allah, who is AZIZ and RAHIM, is quick in taking account!!
Islam Ahmadiyya is the revival of the true teachings of Islam and it is time that the Muslims world wake up and accept the Promised Messiah (as).
No man made laws, protests, riots or persecution can retard the growth of the true followers of Islam. We will continue to pray for our enemies, the ones who persecute us and call us kaffir.
May Allah guide those who sincerely are in search of the truth and may Allah open the hearts of those whose hearts have been darkened by false propaganda and misinformation.
Islam Ahmadiyya Zindabad…
Dear All,
Assalmoalaikum wa rehmatu(A)llahe wabarakatohoo,
In this day and age, when the Western powers are making an all-out assault on the blessed person of the Holy prophet (salAllaho alaihe wasallam) and hundreds of thousands of books have been published, against the teachings of the Holy Quran, the need of the time for the Muslim Ummah is to become united and confront the enormous challenges that face the Muslim world. Unfortunately, throughout history, the Muslims have proved again and again, thet the MUSLIMS ARE THEIR OWN WORST ENEMIES! Whether this is the old Shia-Sunni split, the Palestinians fighting amongst themselves, the various ethnic divides within Muslim countries ( like in Pakistan the Bengalis and West Pakistanis, the Sindhis and Punjabis and of late the Muhajisr of Paksitan and the non- Muhajirs).
When will we Muslims see sense and start thinking and acting in accordance with the teachings of the Holy prophet (salAllaho alaihe wasallam). The Muslim Ummah is one great body and within it are several smaller components. We are all Muslims if we say La ilaha IllAllaho Muhammdun RasoolAllah. This creed, One God, One Prophet, One Qibla and One Book, these are the things that bind us together. The differences between the sects are minor and insignificant.
The need of the time is for Muslims all over the world to unite and become one strong and unassailable eddifice against the designs of the powers which want to dissipate the power and unity of the Muslims so that they can plant the flag of atheism and mainly Christianity in the heart of the Muslims lands.
I am an Ahmadi Muslim. But first and foremost I am a Muslim. I believe:
-In the Finality of the Holy Prophet (salAllaho alaihe wasallam.
-The Holy Prophet (salAllaho alaihe wasallam is the Khaatamun Nabiyyin or the Seal of Prophets.
- The Holy Prophet (salAllaho alaihe wasallam) foretold the advent of the Imam Mahdi (alaihesalam). In this day and age, Hazrat Mirza Ghulam Ahmad of Qadian claimed that he is the Imam Mahdi and Promised Messiah, and gave proof and evidence of his truth. I and other Ahmadis throughout the world have believed in him.
- Other Muslims who are not Ahmadis, are still waiting for the Imam Mahdi and Messiah to come. Let them wait!
Allah Subhana wa Ta’ala, states clearly in the Holy Quran:
Ta’avanoo alalbirre wattaqwa, wala ta’avanoo alalisme wal udvaan.
Co-operate with each other in good things and in righteousness and do not co-operate in matters of sin and transgression.
May Allah guide us on the right path.
wassalam
Navidul Haq Khan
Email: drnhkhan@hotmail.com
navidul.khan@bhrhospitals.nhs.uk
Assalamualaikum.
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There is no God but ALLAH, the greatest one, the merciful.
Muhammad PBUH is ALLAH’s LAST MESSENGER and the only LAST PROPHET. Who ever claim there is another prophet after Muhammad PBUH,…..then he/she is totally NOT MUSLIM!!! and they should take a pray, do taubah nasooha .
“There is no God but ALLAH, the greatest one, the merciful.
Muhammad PBUH is ALLAH’s LAST MESSENGER and the only LAST PROPHET. Who ever claim there is another prophet after Muhammad PBUH,…..then he/she is totally NOT MUSLIM!!! ”
dari indonesia: Read here http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seal_of_the_prophets that people like Imam Raghib, Muhiyyudin Ibn Arabi, Deobandi founder Maulana Qasim Nanutwi and others believe a prophet can still come and Prophet Muhammad was NOT the last prophet. Why do you then not call them not Muslim, instead they are considered scholars of Islam?
Here is in detail an Urdu video to explain how Qasim Nanutwi denies concept of khatm-e-nabuwat (finality of prophet); http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0sw6Qyqjh04
This last prophet thing will backfire heavily as Ahmadis are neither the only ones nor the first ones to claim that a prophet can come after Prophet Muhammad. However, curiously the other claimants are NOT considered not Muslims. Sounds like politics to me.
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“There is no God but ALLAH, the greatest one, the merciful.
Muhammad PBUH is ALLAH’s LAST MESSENGER and the only LAST PROPHET. Who ever claim there is another prophet after Muhammad PBUH,…..then he/she is totally NOT MUSLIM!!! ”
dari indonesia: Read here http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seal_of_the_prophets that people like Imam Raghib, Muhiyyudin Ibn Arabi, Deobandi founder Maulana Qasim Nanutwi and others believe a prophet can still come and Prophet Muhammad was NOT the last prophet. Why do you then not call them not Muslim, instead they are considered scholars of Islam?
Here is in detail an Urdu video to explain how Qasim Nanutwi denies concept of khatm-e-nabuwat (finality of prophet); http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0sw6Qyqjh04
This last prophet thing will backfire heavily as Ahmadis are neither the only ones nor the first ones to claim that a prophet can come after Prophet Muhammad. However, curiously the other claimants are NOT considered not Muslims. Sounds like politics to me.
yh das true, whoever says there is a prophet after Muhammed is totally wrong!! even thou im non muslim still i can still see shirk!!
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